08/09/2025
About seven months ago, I received a message on Messenger. Someone wrote to me:
“I am a college student. I am in a group where atheists are raising many objections against Islam. I try to respond, but I cannot answer properly. Could you please join the group for a while?”
I agreed, and he sent me a link. When I joined, there were over a hundred members. After some discussion, I realized the group was filled with atheists, agnostics, free-thinkers, Christians, Hindus, and mostly Qadianis. Sadly, the one who had invited me seemed, by his reactions, to be one of them as well.
Anyway, I sought Allah’s help and briefly wrote:
“If you have the courage, let us choose one topic only, one person should speak, and let us fix a time for it.”
One of them loudly objected: “The Qur’an contains scientific mistakes, that’s why we don’t believe in it!”
I asked: “Which mistake?”
He replied: “The Qur’an says: Khuliqa min mā’in dāfiq, yakhruju min bayniṣ-ṣulbi wat-tarā’ib — ‘Created from a gushing fluid that emerges from between the backbone and the ribs.’ According to the Qur’an, semen comes out from between the back and the chest, while science says it comes from the te**es. Therefore, this is a scientific error.”
I said: “Alright, then this will be our topic. We will discuss for one hour, and only one representative from your side will speak.”
The time was set after ‘Isha prayer. I also included some of my friends for support — only to provide material privately if needed, but I strictly forbade them from participating in the discussion.
After ‘Isha, the discussion began. He repeated his objection. I had kept in mind three answers from Hamza Andreas Tzortzis. I said:
“This verse has three interpretations which are completely in line with science.”
He interrupted: “We don’t want modern interpretations, only Ibn ‘Abbas and Ibn Kathir count.”
I replied: “Either both the earlier and later commentaries are valid, or none of them are. If later commentaries are not acceptable, then the earlier ones are not either. Better yet, let us look at the verse linguistically.”
Then I gave an analogy:
“It’s like you saying reason is a valid proof, but only your own reason. If reason is a proof, then everyone’s reason is; if not, then no one’s is.”
So it was agreed that we would consider the linguistic meaning.
I then raised the first point:
“The Qur’an mentions only mā’in dāfiq (a gushing fluid). It does not explicitly say ‘semen.’ How can you prove that it refers to semen?”
He fell silent.
I continued: “Alright, even if we assume it means semen, still the objection does not hold. Look:
The Qur’an says:
Fal-yanzuri-l-insānu mimma khuliq (5). Khuliqa min mā’in dāfiq (6).
Translation: ‘Let man consider from what he was created. He was created from a gushing fluid.’
Stop here. Full stop. That’s the end of the sentence.
Then the next verse says:
Yakhruju min bayniṣ-ṣulbi wat-tarā’ib
The pronoun in yakhruju (he comes forth) refers back to insān (the human being), not to mā’in dāfiq (the fluid). So the translation becomes:
‘That human comes forth from between the backbone and the chest.’
And in fact, the womb is located between the back and the chest. This is further supported by the next verse:
Innahū ‘alā raj‘ihi laqādir (8)
‘Indeed, He (Allah) is capable of bringing him (the human) back.’
When I said this, he was astonished and admitted: “If this is the correct translation, then the matter is settled.”
I asked: “So, is there any scientific error in the Qur’an?”
He stayed silent.
I then challenged the whole group to raise another objection against this verse. But everyone was silent, and within 15 minutes the entire debate ended.
Alhamdulillah, Allah granted victory to Ibn al-Islam.
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The purpose of sharing this incident:
▪️ Atheists often use the trick of pretending to be Muslims, inviting you into a group, and then suddenly bombarding you with objections together.
▪️ Atheism is being backed by different religions — especially Qadianis, Christians, and Hindus.
▪️ Never engage atheists in sudden debates. First agree on the topic, fix a time, prepare properly, and seek Allah’s help.
▪️ If you are not well-versed in a subject, silence is better. Your silence will cause less harm than speaking unprepared.
Note: I will, in shā’ Allah, share the three interpretations of this verse in detail in another post, along with links (though they are in English). To avoid length, I will end here for now.
Thank you for reading ❤️
Jazakumullāhu khayran
✒️ Ibn al-Islam